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"confidence that we walk in when we learn to pray prayer that release victory and answers."

Another deceitful fallicy of the charismatic movement of their distorted view of "victory and answers."
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No, just your distored misunderstaning of the Word....and obviously PRAYER!  [thumbup] How ever so arrogant and rude to take a pot shot at Charismatics (which would include ALL tongue talking believers,) just because you have a personal agenda.

Wonder where the explanation is for your false, misguided presentation of the scripture in 1John and Romans 8? Possibly you should study a bit more.

BTW have you won anyone to Jesus this week?  [thinking]
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I like reading through and meditating on God's promises/Word, be they ones in the Bible or ones given to me in the course of my relationship with him, abt something and everything or anything. It's just a habit we can have. Cheesy I find strength and comfort in his promises, and the knowledge of who he is, the timelessness of his Word, and who he has made us to be -- his children, a people called by his name. I believe you do too.

Please write/share promises God has made, found in the Bible. You may also share some which he has given you and came to pass or which are yet to be fulfilled if you would. Indeed, you don't have to share what isn't to be shared yet/at all. If prefered pls have a look at the context as well.

I'll go:

Faithful is he who calls you, and he also will bring it to pass.(1 Thes. 5:24)

Bro Mandal, allow me to make a few points here pls. I did refer to the use/significance of context if one prefered to.

It's good of you to have  drawn attention to the use of it here. I'll remind you if you would, that context applies elsewhere in the Bible as well. If you'd abide by it,  a lot of the faulty premises you hold would have been corrected.

 It's something to bear in mind for every student of the Word, I believe. Unless otherwise stated by an individual, that their intention is to misuse what they quote, or that they go ahead and misapply what's quoted,  I personally don't think that they can't refer to a single/a few vss.

The theme of prayer isn't limited to the example you quote from 1Jhn and isn't limited to charismatics.

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"If anyone comes to Me, and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be My disciple. Above all else, guard your heart, for it is the wellspring of life." (Lk. 14:26, Prov.14:26).
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The first rule in the study of God’s word, is that you prove Scripture WITH Scripture.


Can you give me a specific reference as to where it actually says that in the Bible?
I know humans say that. But, haven't found a passage that actually says that.

A couple of observations:

1. Seems to me that people that believe in the gifts are in good company along with Paul and the Apostles and the Saints of yore. Dissing on those that believe that God works today the same way that God worked in prior days is dissing on the very founders of the Church.

2. Are you aware that the Bible itself doesn't call itself the "Word of God."
We call it that.  But it seems to me that by doing that we are doing exactly what Mandal says we should not do: Make the Bible say something that it doesn't actually say.

There are some thots to ponder over your breakfast yogart.
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Thank you Clark. [thumbup]

I can't remember all at the top of my head, but Isaiah 40:8(..the Word of our God - NIV), Rom.3:2(..the very words of God - NIV), Hebr.4:12(For the Word of God - NIV) and Hebr. 5:12(God's Word - NIV) possibly say something abt the observational point #2. David says often of "your Word.." in Psalms, an example can be seen in Psl. 119:105. I confess that from this and elsewhere in the Bible, I derive my use of the "Word", or "God's Word" from and I may have used the "Word of God" too.  [bricks]

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"If anyone comes to Me, and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be My disciple. Above all else, guard your heart, for it is the wellspring of life." (Lk. 14:26, Prov.14:26).
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In fact, in my opinion, the greatest description of what the "Word of God" actually is, is found in John 1:

The Word IS God.
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Oh my clumsy head. Cheesy I see what you mean. It's true it doesn't stand written "THIS, the words in this book...."  Nada, that phrase isn't there.  Yet I think, it brings us back to the 'Word of God' when and if we ask ourselves of what is refered to, when clauses like "...the Word of God" come into use. [thumbup]
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"If anyone comes to Me, and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be My disciple. Above all else, guard your heart, for it is the wellspring of life." (Lk. 14:26, Prov.14:26).
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There are certainly references to God's word, and to the word of God and that scripture is God breathed etc.

But, the Bible itself never says "THIS, the words in this book,  starting with Gen 1 and ending in Rev, are 'The Word of God.' "
We say that. But, the Bible doesn't actually say that. In other words, I think we are doing what someone else has been saying that we shouldn't do. We put our own words into the text.

In fact, in my opinion, the greatest description of what the "Word of God" actually is, is found in John 1:
The Word IS God.



Yes Jesus is the Word...the Word became flesh and dwelt among man. However, it does say that ALL scripture is God breathed.....and profitable......

We do expound on the Word as teachers but this comes by study and revelation. It is not incorrect so long as that teaching/expounding is in accordance with the full counsel of God.....line upon line, precept upon precept. That is, the thread of what we teach should be throughout scripture. Yet, just when we think we know what HE meant and we have tucked all our understanding away nice an neat in a little box in our mind, He shows up with a whole new dimension and broadens our limited understanding. The Word is always increasing. I believe thats why we can read something in the Word a hundred times and think we understand its full revelation, and then possibly on your 101st reading of it, its like you receive a down load from Him that blows the passage wide open. Holy Spirit revelation verses head knowledge....and it proves you knew very little at all.  

Of course we in our humanity are going to be in error to some degree because this is learning process. However, one cannot be denied the freedom to state what they have experienced in their walk with God and link it to the Word.

I think we should take care that we not over simplify the Word to mere natural understanding nor over spiritualize it to be unattainable and irrelevant.
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In fact, in my opinion, the greatest description of what the "Word of God" actually is, is found in John 1:

The Word IS God.



My apology to you Clark. In trying to quote you, I accidentally modified your post. It wasn't intetionally done. My bad. Pls forgive me brother.

"The Word was God"(Jhn. 1:1-18) puts forth well, sound Doctrine(the Deity of Jesus Christ supported by among others Col. 1:15-20) and proper GK Grammar, I find. This is used by some to deny the fact that Jesus is indeed God. Such people need to get their look into Greek, context and their beliefs straight and use facts and not opinions or the doctrines of man.

"God was the Word" might be problematic, I think.
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"If anyone comes to Me, and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be My disciple. Above all else, guard your heart, for it is the wellspring of life." (Lk. 14:26, Prov.14:26).
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Therefore, brethren, be all the more diligent to make certain about His calling and choosing you; for as long as you practice these things, you will never stumble; for in this way the entrance into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ will be abundantly supplied to you.(2 Pet. 1:10-11)
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"If anyone comes to Me, and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be My disciple. Above all else, guard your heart, for it is the wellspring of life." (Lk. 14:26, Prov.14:26).
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How easy it is and joyful it would be, to respond to you all with God's word, but first things first.  Leaving Monday night for Asia and much to do before then.
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God with you bro Mandal.


The wicked is thrust down by his wrongdoing, but the righteous has a refuge when he dies.(Prov.14:32)
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God with you bro Mandal.


The wicked is thrust down by his wrongdoing, but the righteous has a refuge when he dies.(Prov.14:32)

Amen, NM.  May all the glory be the Lords.
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The God I believe, the God of the Bible,Jehovah, the God of Israel, the Creator of heavens and earth, is the most Charismatic ONE.
Guess where charismatic movement comes from? [thinking]
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The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance.(2 Pet. 3:9)
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"If anyone comes to Me, and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be My disciple. Above all else, guard your heart, for it is the wellspring of life." (Lk. 14:26, Prov.14:26).
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